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		<title>Excuse Me But Did Glenn Beck Say He is a Mormon!!</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/09/01/excuse-me-but-did-glenn-beck-say-he-is-a-mormon/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for throwing cold water on your Glenn Beck for President party but as an old school evangelical I need to ask my evangelicalish colleagues a few questions
Didn&#8217;t you tell me that mormons were a cult?
Doesn&#8217;t that logically mean that Glenn Beck will end up in Hell?
Has it ever occurred to you that Satan may [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for throwing cold water on your Glenn Beck for President party but as an old school evangelical I need to ask my evangelicalish colleagues a few questions</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you tell me that mormons were a cult?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that logically mean that Glenn Beck will end up in Hell?</p>
<p>Has it ever occurred to you that Satan may have sent Glenn as the anti Christ?</p>
<p>Can you understand that many non Christians watch this and conclude that the real issue is that many evangelicals prefer a white mormon over a black evangelical?</p>
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		<title>Pam Hogeweide Reviews Outsider Interviews</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/08/05/pam-hogeweide-reviews-outsider-interviews/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<title>ChurchRater Hits Ohio</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/07/23/churchrater-hits-ohio/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Todays Columbus Dispatch
People have always rated their churches, if only in casual conversation.
&#8220;That sermon moved me to tears!&#8221; or &#8220;Dear Lord, the organ sounded awful and so did the soloist.&#8221;
Such informal judgments mostly had been limited to whispered chats among the pews or brunch discussions after church.
Now, thanks to the website ChurchRater.com, worshippers can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From Todays Columbus Dispatch</strong></p>
<p>People have always rated their churches, if only in casual conversation.</p>
<p>&#8220;That sermon moved me to tears!&#8221; or &#8220;Dear Lord, the organ sounded awful and so did the soloist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such informal judgments mostly had been limited to whispered chats among the pews or brunch discussions after church.</p>
<p>Now, thanks to the website ChurchRater.com, worshippers can share their thoughts with everyone. Much like movie critics, they choose how many stars &#8211; up to five &#8211; to award.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/jim.henderson">Read More</a></p>
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		<title>Submission Sexism And Marginalization</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/07/09/submission-sexism-and-marginalization/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets have a conversation and learn from each other
One recent comment came from Susan Hall who had this to say
i did a small qualitative study of evangelical women for my doctoral dissertation in 2007 and found that indeed, they say these very positive things…while at the very same time they tell stories of sexism and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets have a conversation and learn from each other</p>
<p>One recent comment came from Susan Hall who had this to say</p>
<blockquote><p>i did a small qualitative study of evangelical women for my doctoral dissertation in 2007 and found that indeed, they say these very positive things…<em>while at the very same time they tell stories of sexism and marginalization</em> which they explain away and justify. they dismissed and invalidated the meaning of any experiences that didn’t fit the “right” picture of the church. they would literally say that even though they couldn’t speak in front of the church, they had complete freedom because their men were representing them and speaking for them.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://offthemap.com/2010/07/03/recent-national-survey-of-christian-women-reveals-–-things-going-great/">Add your comments here</a></p>
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		<title>How To Talk With Someone Who Has A Different Perspective Than Yours?</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/07/08/how-to-talk-with-someone-who-has-a-different-perspective-than-yours/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since The Outsider Interviews has been released, Todd, Craig and I have been interacting with a number of journalists. I thought you might enjoy reading the Q&#038;A I recently engaged in with one interviewer.
What did you learn about Christians from these interviews?
&#8220;Like normal humans, they come in all shapes and sizes &#8211; in general they&#8217;re [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since <a href="http://http://www.amazon.com/Outsider-Interviews-Generation-Speaks-Christianity/dp/0801013453/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1278616016&#038;sr=8-1">The Outsider Interviews </a>has been released, Todd, Craig and I have been interacting with a number of journalists. I thought you might enjoy reading the Q&#038;A I recently engaged in with one interviewer.<span id="more-786"></span></p>
<p><strong>What did you learn about Christians from these interviews?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Like normal humans, they come in all shapes and sizes &#8211; in general they&#8217;re well intentioned but lack insight which in and of itself isn&#8217;t so bad but when coupled with a devotion to &#8220;certainty&#8221;can create mean spirited, arrogant people &#8211; nothing like Jesus was aiming for&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>What did you learn about people outside the Christian faith?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p> Same as Christians (which says more about Christians than Non Christians) they&#8217;re burdened with the same biases and confidence in &#8220;certainty&#8221; but when you find one who is humble and curious it&#8217;s like finding the treasure<br />
hidden in the field Jesus mentioned </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>What/who was the most interesting/surprising experience/person you encountered during this experiment?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Rio in Denver &#8211; on the face of things she appeared to be the most <em>on fire</em> Christian we encountered which she probably was at one time in her life. Hearing the painful journey she has been on since coming out as being gay was disturbing, heartbreaking and revealing. Her unwillingness to make a commitment to being gay for life made her even more fascinating. Lots for Christians to learn in that interview </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>What are some practical ways to nurture and engage in real conversation with people outside our faith?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>
1) Be open to being influenced by THEM<br />
2) Be transparent about what you truly believe<br />
3) Ask more questions about them instead of their beliefs (those are things we adopt to make us feel and appear smarter, more powerful and in charge of things)<br />
4) Tell them about your doubts, failures ( meaning give them some ammo they can use against you and then watch if they do)<br />
5) Ask them these questions&#8230;<br />
a) What would you say to Christians if you thought they would listen (then<br />
take notes)<br />
b) How do you navigate life spiritually (or not)<br />
c) How are you? (then put something in your mouth and listen</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Recent National Survey of Christian Women Reveals – Things Going Great!</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/07/03/recent-national-survey-of-christian-women-reveals-%e2%80%93-things-going-great/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two months ago Jim Henderson and Lisa Whittle contracted with The Barna Group to ask women to respond to a number of questions about their experience with the church. 
They (Barna Group) spoke with 603 women who met the following qualifications: 18 years or older, described themselves as “Christian” And had attended a Christian church [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two months ago <a href="http://http://offthemap.com/people/jim-henderson-team/">Jim Henderson </a>and <a href="http://www.lisawhittle.com/lisawhittle.com/Home.html">Lisa Whittle</a> contracted with <a href="www.barna.org/">The Barna Group</a> to ask women to respond to a number of questions about their experience with the church. </p>
<p>They (Barna Group) spoke with 603 women who met the following qualifications: 18 years or older, described themselves as “Christian” And had attended a Christian church service at least once during the past six months. Among those women, 63% met the survey criteria for being a “Born Again Christian.”</p>
<p>The complete survey findings will not be available until 2011 when our books are published but since we&#8217;re using these stats to help shape our thinking we thought it would be interesting to get the feedback from an even larger audience to see how they responded to some of the data. </p>
<p>To be fair, Lisa and I found the picture these statistics paint somewhat skewed toward an unusually positive view of things. <em>However we might be wrong</em>- these stats may in fact reflect how the majority of Christian women see things regarding their personal sense of spiritual fulfillment and access to influence and leadership in the church. </p>
<p>That’s why we want to hear from you!  <em>Especially if you agree with these statistics! </em></p>
<p>And if you disagree with them tell us why you think so many women disagree with you. </p>
<p>Choose whatever statistics speak to you and tell us your story.</p>
<p>Please post your response on our blog and (whenever possible) use your real name and tell us if you are willing for us to contact you with follow up questions. </p>
<p>(NOTE: by posting your story here you agree that we may use it in any of our publications)</p>
<p>Also please help us by posting this article on your Facebook, Twitter or Blog </p>
<p>Feel free to respond to one or several of the statistics.  We are not looking for yes/no answers. We’re looking for all kinds of stories that substantiate, support, or refute and challenge these findings. </p>
<p><strong>Here’s what we want to know… </strong></p>
<p><strong>Do these statistics match your experience?</strong></p>
<p>1.	84% say that <em>their church’s perspective</em> on women in ministry is almost identical, very similar, or somewhat similar <em>to their own</em>.</p>
<p>2.	83% say that <em>their Senior Pastor</em> is somewhat, highly or completely supportive of women leading in their church</p>
<p>3.	82% say they can tell by <em>their church’s actions</em> that the church values the leadership of women </p>
<p>4.	81% say that their church provides women with <em>the same degree</em> of leadership opportunities as <em>Jesus would</em>.</p>
<p>5.	72% say they possess <em>a lot</em> of spiritual freedom in their life  </p>
<p>6.	70% say that the media <em>has little</em> influence on their decision-making</p>
<p>7.	71% say fear <em>is not</em> something they experience ever or often in their life</p>
<p>8.	62% say that <em>ALL leadership roles</em> are open to them in their church.</p>
<p>9.	<em>Only</em> 1% say <em>they often</em> struggle with jealousy</p>
<p>10.	Among those who feel they are capable of doing more to serve God, and should be doing more, <em>only</em> 4% say that their <em>fear of failure</em> is holding them back from doing more to serve God.</em></p>
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		<title>USA Today &gt;&gt; Jim Henderson</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/06/28/usa-today-jim-henderson/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly, its not all that often that I enjoy reading about myself. Most of the time I &#8220;live with&#8221; whatever reporters have to say and thank God for any kind of &#8220;ink&#8221;
This article by Tom Krattenmaker breaks the mold. He provides the most accurate picture of what I do and Why I do it. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, its not all that often that I enjoy reading about myself. Most of the time I &#8220;live with&#8221; whatever reporters have to say and thank God for any kind of &#8220;ink&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-06-28-column28_ST_N.htm">This article</a> by Tom Krattenmaker breaks the mold. He provides the most accurate picture of what I do and Why I do it. </p>
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		<title>Are You Resigned, Have You Resigned, or Did you Re-sign</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/04/26/are-you-resigned-have-you-resigned-or-did-you-re-sign/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m doing research for my next project- The Resignation of Eve. I want to interview Christian or formerly Christian women who are experiencing or have gone through one or more of the Three Stages of Resignation. I will be doing these interviews in May. Most will be via Skype but some might be in person [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m doing research for my next project- The Resignation of Eve. I want to interview Christian or formerly Christian women who are experiencing or have gone through one or more of the Three Stages of Resignation. I will be doing these interviews in May. Most will be via Skype but some might be in person (depending on where I am in the world). Get more details in the blog and post a short explainer  here in the comments section(<strong>100 words or less</strong>) as to why you or your friend might be a good person for me to interview.</p>
<p>1.	Resigned <em>To </em><br />
Using the word “resigned” in the passive sense we will highlight the most widespread abuse of women in the church – blocking, stonewalling and stalling women’s interest in gaining more influence in the church. We will tell the stories of women who find themselves “stuck” in a Catch 22. They love their church and the people but they also know they aren’t being given the opportunity to bring their best. Some are very frustrated others have simply come to terms with it.</p>
<p>2.	Resigned <em>From   </em><br />
This section profiles women who have walked away from Christianity, Church and in some cases God. These are women who at one time were very dedicated Christians, church goers and bible study leaders who have opted out for other beliefs or no beliefs. In spite of their rejection of the religion that confused and complicated their lives many of these women often lead fulfilling and productive and even deeply spiritual lives.</p>
<p>3.	Re-Signed <em>Up  </em><br />
Life is about making trades. Two people can appear to be doing the same thing but for two very different reasons. This section features the stories of women who have found a way to “orbit the giant hairball” called Christianity. They’ve learned the art of “defining themselves and staying connected”. They’re engaged but not owned, integrated within the church but knowledgeable about its inherent limitations and dangers. They’ve discovered ways to contribute to something they often disagree with. What makes these women different is that they don’t deny or just accept the situation <strong><em>they know it exists</em></strong>, talk about it and are seeking to change it from within.</p>
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		<title>Our Own Tribal War</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/04/10/our-own-tribal-war/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henderson</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Barack Obama]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watching Governor Bob McDonald of Virginia work two partners on the confederate dance floor last week made me realize that our country is no different than Iraq, Ireland or Russia.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia work two partners on the confederate dance floor last week made me realize that our country is no different than Iraq, Ireland or Russia.<span id="more-741"></span>  </p>
<p>We enjoy looking down our noses at groups like the Sunnis and Shiites, The Irish Catholics and Protestants and the Chechens and Russians. We love feeling <em>above it all</em> – advanced as a society.  These multi generational eye for eye battles over ancient issues is not how we do business here in God’s chosen country.  The good old US of A.</p>
<p>I voted and worked for Barack Obama. President Obama is not doing what I would like. He&#8217;s not liberal enough for me. He&#8217;s too centrist for my taste. I also think that he is smarter than I am and most likely doing the right thing. I also think history will record him as one of America’s greatest political leaders but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>I voted for him because he was less dangerous than Bush, smarter than his competitors, young and to no small degree because he is a Black man. </p>
<p>I happen to think that the sins of the fathers don’t die after the fathers are dead; they get passed down like the national debt to succeeding generations. If I claim the benefits of being American what rule disqualifies me from our liabilities. </p>
<p>Our national economy was founded and built on the backs of forced slave labor. This is historical fact. </p>
<p>What if I told you, you could pump gas for free or take food off the shelves of your local grocery store without having to pay for it? What if the only real price you had to pay was to look into the eyes of the people who were running the gas station or stocking the shelves ? Our nation did something terrible to Africans. We owe them. My vote for Barack Obama was not only substantial (he was the best candidate) it was symbolic (he gave me an opportunity to act on my inherited regret)</p>
<p>Obviously close to 50% of my fellow citizens disagree with me – some quite vehemently – especially those who live in the South. Bush sounded like them, carried himself like them, was an elite version of them. Obama is from the other tribe, he represents what their ancestors died trying to stop from happening. For them it’s personal, just like it is with the Sunnis and Shiites. Today it’s the Tea Party that carries the water for their tribe.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that kind tribal passion that provided the Chechens the twisted logic necessary for adults to send a 17 year old girl/widow of a <em>freedom</em> fighter into the subways of Moscow to blow herself up along with several other <em>innocent</em> civilians. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s this tribal passion that enabled Virginia Gov. Bob McDonell to lie to himself and then us when he said <em>he didn’t know what he was doing</em> when he failed to acknowledge the causal connection between the confederacy and slavery. Gov.Bob is from a tribe that&#8217;s been at war with the North for hundreds of years. This was just another volley in the longest tribal war in American hitory. The Union vs The Confederacy. </p>
<p>The weirdest part&#8230;  we call ourselves Christians.</p>
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		<title>Exchanges</title>
		<link>http://offthemap.com/2010/02/09/exchanges/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A simple question:
If a church (or faith-community if you like) sits inside the greater (larger) community, then there’s an exchange going on.
I draw it like this:

I get the community-to-church exchange.  Basically it’s “we ship you people and money”. 
But here’s my question – what does the church ship back to the larger community?  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple question:<br />
If a church (or faith-community if you like) sits inside the greater (larger) community, then there’s an exchange going on.<br />
I draw it like this<span id="more-726"></span>:<br />
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<p>I get the community-to-church exchange.  Basically it’s “we ship you people and money”. </p>
<p>But here’s my question – what does the church ship back to the larger community?   What is it that the church provides (or could provide) to that larger community? </p>
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